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Dave Turner Pach seal. short spines recorded.

Pachanoi

Dave Turner Pach

Partially documented

Dave Turner Pach is a named from Dave Turner and traced through Turner Greenhouse and two named growers. Its description is generic pachanoi: deep green , prominent ribs, short spines. The most interesting thing on the wiki page is a suggestion by one experienced grower that it is probably the same plant as the known as TPQC, which would make it a second name for something already in circulation.Reported, but not confirmed.

  • deep green
  • prominent ribs
  • short spines

PachanoiNamed clone: One original plant and every cutting taken from it, given a name by a grower.

Of the 13 things this page says, 5 name who reports them and 8 are marked as something we cannot confirm. Where a line is not settled, it says so underneath.

Added 23 Aug 2026

At a glance

Species

Trichocereus pachanoi

syn. Echinopsis pachanoi

Filed under Pachanoi

Parents

Not recorded

No source names a mother or a father for this one.

Origin

Named from Dave Turner; who applied the name is not recorded.

no source says whether it is seed-grown or a cutting line

In the yard

Not in the yardAsk if you are after one

Family line

what the record holds

No source in this library records a cross for Dave Turner Pach. Nobody names a mother or a father for it, and no other entry here names it as a parent.

That is the record, not an oversight: of the 749 names in this library, 693 have no recorded relation either. Most named clones were selected, cut and passed along without anyone writing down what they came out of. A parent goes in here when a source states it and never because a name looks like one — a wrong pedigree would travel further than a blank one, because pedigrees get copied.

If you know where it came from, tell us — a person reads everything before it appears.

The longer version

The clone is associated with Turner Greenhouse and with the growers Josh and Bob Baker.Too little stands behind this for us to confirm it.

Its name comes from Dave Turner.Reported by 2 independent sources; we have not seen it ourselves.

The rests on archival screenshots one contributor dug up rather than on a first-hand account.Reported, but not confirmed.

The wiki's pachanoi identification page uses this clone as one of its archive examples.Too little stands behind this for us to confirm it.

A Californian nursery names the greenhouse and the state the clone's name comes from, says the plant is known to and to go , and reports that its own plants of this clone and of TPQC, grown a few feet apart, look identical.Reported, but not confirmed.The suggestion that the two are one plant was a single contributor's opinion; it is now two independent accounts of a resemblance. Neither is a determination, and this entry and the TPQC entry stay separate.Reported by one source, and not corroborated anywhere else.

Where the name comes from

The community account ties its origin to a named greenhouse and two named growers.Reported by 2 independent sources; we have not seen it ourselves.

Character

A bar is drawn only where one of the lines below states it — never from the species, never from a photograph.

  • Not documented yet.

  • nearly smooth to heavily spined: this one leans towards nearly smooth, read from the spines line below.

  • Not documented yet.

Skin
Deep green.One source states this, and our house botanist has checked it. Deep green is an ordinary skin colour for these plants.
Ribs
Prominent.Too little stands behind this for us to confirm it.
Spines
Short.One source states this, and our house botanist has checked it. Short spines are common in the genus and nothing contradicts it.

What the sources say

The suggestion that it and TPQC are one plant is a single contributor's opinion on an unverified wiki page, which is exactly the kind of claim this library exists to flag rather than repeat. One contributor states it is likely the same plant as TPQC; our own notes record this as a single contributor's opinion rather than an established fact.Too little stands behind this for us to confirm it.

Drawing of a pachanoi-type column: broad, with low rounded ribs, almost no spines, and a small notch in the rib above each areole.
A Pachanoi column, drawn. We don't grow this one, and we will not borrow anybody else's photograph of it.

Filed under the same family, Pachanoi. The better-documented ones come first.

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Cultivar histories in this hobby are passed between growers; where sources disagree we say so rather than pick a side.